Re: [tied] Pontic Indo-Aryans

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 10277
Date: 2001-10-16

Unfortunately, I don't know Trubachev's study first hand, but there is a convenient summary at Cyril Babaev's website.
 
http://tied.narod.ru/archive/article17.html
 
Gotta run now, but I'll post my comments later.
 
Regards,
 
Piotr
 
 
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From: VAgarwalV@...
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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Wheeled vehicles

While I share your skepticism about the presence of a decipherable
script in the Steppes/Ukraine that reads IA/Sanskrit (for different
reasons!), I would certainly appreciate references that
evaluate/critique the often heard claims (I still have not read any
thing in print) that IA languages/words are attested in the Pontic
Steppes/Ukraine before 1000 BCE.

Apparently, a lot of these claims are in Russian works or in other
languages that I cannot read and as an instance I cite the following
reference below (I will appreciate of some list member can present a
critique of such works).

Author Name: Trubachev, O. N. (Oleg Nikolaevich)
Main Title: Indoarica v Severnom Prichernomor1e : rekonstruktsiia
reliktov iazyka : etimologicheskii slovar1 / O.N. Trubachev.
Published/Created: Moskva : Nauka, 1999.
Description: 318, [1] p. : maps ; 23 cm.
ISBN: 5020116750
Notes: Includes bibliographical references (p. 303-[319]).
Subjects: Indo-Aryan languages--Ukraine--Black Sea Lowland. Black Sea
Lowland (Ukraine)--Languages--Etymology.
LC Classification: PK179 .T78 1999
Other System No.: (DLC) 99235151
CALL NUMBER: PK179 .T78 1999

I do not know precisely what dates are referred to in the book above
but admittedly any attestation of IA words in Ukraine in ancient
times is nothing short of a big scandal.