Re: [tied] Re: Odin again?

Aud-humla "rich hornless" ?

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Subject: [tied] Re: Odin again?


> I suspect that Mithradates was a manic-depressive megalomaniac. I he
> had a real kingdom and a real army, he could have conquered the world
> a la Alexander.
>
> Anyway, I hate to encourage your obsession with the origin of Odin on
> the Azov, but there are some other things that I have noticed that
> are difficult to explain. I'll comment on them briefly here. Perhaps
> I'll have more time later:
>
> The similarities between the Norse and Zoroastrian mythologies are
> striking. This goes especially for Ragnarok and the Final Battle. The
> Creation is also closely paralleled. The Norse Ymir and the cosmic
> cow Adhumla (etymology?) is mirrored in Gayomart and his ox Geush
> Urvan as well as Yima and his sister/wife Yimak. Loki equates to
> Ahriman. Jormungander (etymology for gander?) mirrors Azhi Dahaka.
> Balder equates to Saoshyant, who will refound the world after the
> Final Battle and bring the second Golden Age. The list goes on. What
> is the link? There is nothing so plainly similar in Russian, Greek,
> Hittite, or any other mythology as far as I have found (yes, I know
> of the Hindu Yama, etc).
>
> Here's something interesting for you, Torsten:
>
> The Zoroastrian cosmic ocean goddess Anahita seems similar in name
> and character with the Irish goddess Aine/Anu (details later).
> Scholars believe that Aine was synonymous with Danu. I believe that
> the Norse goddess Idun has some similarities in myth with Danu and
> Anahita, namely that her apples of immortality parallel the Haoma
> that grew on Anahita's Otherworld paradise (i.e. the Garden of Eden).
> I suspect, however, that our linguistic experts would discount the
> name similarity as being superficial at best.
>
> Here's the intriguing part: Anahita was also called Tanais. So, it
> seems too weird that Aine/Danu and Anahita/Tanais would have two
> names that are so similar with each other's. Weirder still, the
> ancient river Tanais is now called the Don (Danu!).
>
> I got more weird stuff on Zurvan, Mithra, the World Tree or World
> Mountain, etc., but this is enough for now.
>
> --- In cybalist@..., tgpedersen@... wrote:
> >
> > Ta-dah, look what I found! I searched on the shelf with Roman
> > authors, starting at A:
> >
> > Appianus: Mithridatica
> >
> > 101:
> > ...
> > Mithridates wintered at Dioscurias in Colchis, which city, the
> > Colchians think, preserves the remembrance of the sojourn there of
> > the Dioscuri with the Argonautic expedition. Here he conceived the
> > vast plan, a strange one for a fugitive, of making the circuit of
> the
> > whole Pontus, and then of Scythia and the sea of Azov, thus
> arriving
> > at the Bosporus. He intended to take away the kingdom of Machares,
> > his ungrateful son, and confront the Romans once more; wage war
> > against them from the side of Europe while they were in Asia, and
> put
> > between them the strait which is believed to have called the
> Bosporus
> > because Io swam across it when she was changed into a cow and fled
> > from the jealousy of Hera.
> > 102.
> > Such was the chimerical project that Mithridates now eagerly
> pursied.
> > He imagined nevertheless, that he should accomplish it. He pushed
> on
> > through strange and warlike Scythian tribes, partly by permission,
> > partly by force, so respected and feared was he still, although a
> > fugitive and in misfortune. He passed through the country of the
> > Heniochi, who received him willingly. The Achaeans, who resisted
> him,
> > hwe put to flight. These, it is said, when returning from the siege
> > of Troy, were driven by a storm into the Euxine sea and underwent
> > great sufferings there at the hands of the barbarians because they
> > were Greeks; and when they sent to their home for ships and their
> > request was disregarded, they conceived such a hatred for the
> Grecian
> > race that whenever they captured any Greeks they immolated them in
> > Scythian fashion. At first in their anger they served all in this
> > way, afterwards only the handsomest ones, and finally a few chosen
> by
> > lot. So much for the Achaeans of Scythia.
> > Mithridates finally reached the Azov country, of which there were
> > many princes, all of whom received him, escorted him, and exchanged
> > numerous presents with him, on account of the fame of his deeds,
> his
> > empire, and his power, which was still not to be despised. He even
> > formed an alliance with them in contemplentation of other and more
> > novel expoits, such as marching through Thrace to Macedonia,
> through
> > Macedonia to Pannonia, and passing over the Alps into Italy.
> > ...
> >
> > Nothing is heard of these plans afterwards. But this is, for the
> > first part, the route that "Odin" followed around that time. Did
> they
> > actually implement the plan? Did they hear of the defeat of
> > Mithridates while en route in Pannonia and were suddenly stranded
> > with no particular place to go?
> >
> > And who are those Acheans of Scythia? Were "Odin"'s people
> descended
> > not from Trojans, but from Greek-hating Achaeans?
> >
> > Torsten
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