Re: [tied] Re: Rim-?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 8856
Date: 2001-08-30

Old Church Slavic <rum-> was most likely borrowed from some northern Greek dialect in which <rho:maioi> was pronounced [ruméi] (cf. the Arabic word for Byzantium). Gothic <Ru:ma, Ru:mo:neis> and similar Germanic forms are difficult to explain. The ultimate source seems to be Latin (Ro:ma:n- rather than Etruscan Rumach), but I don't know the route of the borrowing. Maybe a conservative form of the word travelled early from Northern Italy into Central Europe. By the way, does anyone (Chris Gwinn?) know the earliest Celtic words for Rome and the Romans?
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From: tgpedersen@...
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Rim-?

But as you might have guessed I wondered: why Ru:ma in Gothic, when
that's Old Latin and Etruscan (and by extrapolation(?) Lemnian). When
did the Goths arrive in the North Pontic area and who did they find