Tyrrhenian and its relation to IE

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 8687
Date: 2001-08-22

>Credit where credit due.

I endeavor to correct all my errors unlike someone.

>In view of the fact that Sumerian is an ergative language, it is not at all
>surprising or significant that it has no ***accusative***-m.

That's right, sunshine. Sumerian is an *ergative* language with
*ERGATIVE* and *ABSOLUTIVE* cases. AA, Kartvelian and Sumerian
all demonstrate ergativity. So how on earth can we
insist that Nostratic had an accusative case with *ma that just
happened to survive in function and form for 9000 years completely
unscathed? This should be simple to understand - There is no
substantiation for a Nostratic accusative case despite what
prominent Nostraticists may casually rant.

Ergo, the so-called "ergative stage of IE" is synonymous with

gLeNny gEe
...wEbDeVEr gOne bEsErK!

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> Credit where credit due. Recognizing mistakes is the first step towards
>correcting them.
> [GG]
> The fact that Sumerian, AA and Kartvelian have no
> trace of an *m-accusative should demonstrate (along with other
> grammatical peculiarities that I could bore the list with) that
> the ending was only used as an accusative for a specific
> sub-grouping of Nostratic.
> [PCR]
> In view of the fact that Sumerian is an ergative language, it is not at
>all surprising or significant that it has no ***accusative***-m.
> [GG]
> Plus, if we are to speak of an "ergative stage" in preIE, then
> why can't this ergative stage be Nostratic itself? If not
> Nostratic, when?? During the ProtoWorld stage? :P
> Yes, fie with Nostraticists, fie, I say!
> Pat
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