From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 5229
Date: 2000-12-30
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From: Torsten Pedersen <tgpedersen@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 9:10 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: etruscan
> --- In cybalist@egroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> > The majority opinion is that it isn't, and only a handful of
(...)
> I have a question here regarding Etruscan/Lemnian:
>
> Is ON thursa "troll" related to the "tyrsenoi"? Phonetically, it
> seems to fit. Other "minor supernatural beings" have been
> tentatively´identified with pre-IE peoples.
>
I think maybe there's some relation.
ON thursa "troll, giant" < *ters- "to tremble, to be afraid" cf. Latin
tremere (<*tresm-), terror (<*tersos-). In Sanskrit there's trs.u "monster,
demon, litterally, that who is terrible".
Usual analysis points Latin tuscus "etruscan" < *turscus < *turs akin to
thyrsenos, thyrrenos. But in Roman epic history, it's well known the
relation between the threefold Roman people (Romans-Etruscans-Sabines) with
the threefold mythic ON scheme aesir-giants-vanir or Irish tuatha de
danaan-fomoire-fir bolg.
So, it's not impossible that Latin *tuscus (<*trs-ikos) had an archaic
meaning "monster, giant", and after its meaning was mixed with *t(h)urs-
"Etruscan", with the euhemerization of Giants as Etruscan warriors.
Joao SL
Rio