Re: [tied] Re: etruscan

I've seen this thursa = turs-eno- equation somewhere, possibly in one of Theo Venneman's papers. It does seem to fit phonetically, the question is only how plausible it is in other respects. The Germani did absorb some cultural influence radiating from Northern Italy -- one very clear example is the Runic script, which derives from "North Etruscan" alphabets (used also by non-Tyrrhenian peoples such as the Veneti).

These placename resemblances are most likely coincidental, given that Germanic *-ind-/*-and-/*-und- can be etymologised using normal IE resources (< *-(e/o)nt-ó-, as in present participles).

Piotr

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From: Torsten Pedersen

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 12:10 PM

Subject: [tied] Re: etruscan

I have a question here regarding Etruscan/Lemnian: Is ON thursa "troll" related to the "tyrsenoi"? Phonetically, it seems to fit. Other "minor supernatural beings" have been tentatively´identified with pre-IE peoples. As is well-known, there is number of place-names in Greece, ending in -inthos, -unthos, -ssos, which are considered Pre-Greek, possibly Anatolian. Subtract ending and we get -inth-, -unth-, -ss-. Certain place names in Denmark, mostly of islands and peninsulas, are considered pre-IE, at least pre-Germanic. Old Name Present Name Lavind Langeland Borgund Born-holm Ekund Jegind-ø Selund Sjælland (Zealand) Thund Thun-ø Sams Sams-ø Mors id. Mols id. Als id. So we have here endings -ind, -und, -s. Coincidence? Amber has been found in Bronze Age shipwrecks in the Mediterranean, so you can't argue that the two places were isolated from each other. Is there some weird connection? Regards Torsten Pedersen