Re: Nordic Nine Worlds

From: Thomas Nordengen
Message: 4041
Date: 2000-09-25

--- In cybalist@egroups.com, João Simões Lopes Filho
<jodan99@...>
wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Was Elivåger thought as a River around the World, like Okeanos?
>

Elivåger was a river running from the spring of Hvergelmer in
Nifelheim to Ginnungagap (direction to the south).

Nifelheim: Foggy and spooky place where people went who died in Hel.
Can be seen as "under hell".

Ginnungagap: The enormous gap between the icecold Nifelheim in the
north and the glow hot Muspellheim in the south. The only place with
bearable temperatures.

I don't know much about Okeanos, but Elivåger was rather a river
that
entered the world from the ice in the north. The only thing
surrounding the world I think, was the Midgard-snake/dragon who bit
itself in the tail. It was said to live far out at sea.

> Joao SL
> Rio
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thomas Nordengen <thomasno@...>
> To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:03 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: Nordic Nine Worlds
>
>
> >
> > --- In cybalist@egroups.com, João Simões Lopes Filho
> > <jodan99@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've searched through a norse mythology page (unfortunately for
you
> > in
> > Norwegian), and found the following:
> >
> > Muspellsheim: Home of fire. The sky before creation of earth.
> > Represents south.
> >
> > Vanaheim: Home of Vaner, a tribe of gods.
> >
> > Alfheim: Home of Alfer, the Elven people (who were sometimes evil)
> >
> > Midgard: The home of humans, a world built by Æser to protect
> > humans
> > from Jotuns.
> >
> > Åsgard: Castle or borg in Midgard, home of Æser.
> >
> > Jotunheimen: Land by the coast on the other side of the river
> > Elivåger. Here Jotuns had huge farms.
> >
> > > The Nordic Nine Worlds:
> > > MUSPELLSHEIM
> > > ALFHEIM
> > > ÁSGARDR
> > > VANAHEIM
> > > MIDGARDR
> > > JOETUNNHEIM
> > > SVARTALFHEIM
> > > HELHEIM
> > > NIFLHEIM
> > >
> > > What's their structure?
> > >
> > > VANAHEIM - ALFHEIM - ASGARDR (Heaven)
> > > NIFLHEIM - MIDGARDR - MUSPELLSJEIM (Earth)
> > > JOETUNNHEIM - SVARTALFHEIM - HELHEIM (Underworld)
> > > ?????
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > ASGARDR (Heaven)
> > > ALFHEIM (Atmosphere, physical Overworld)
> > > VANAHEIM (West) - NIFLHEIM (North) - JOETUNNHEIM (East) -
> > MUSPELLSHEIM (South) - MIDGARDR (Center)
> > > SVARTALFHEIM (Underground, physical Underworld)
> > > HELHEIM (Underworld)
> > >
> > > ????????
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > ASGARDR (Heaven)
> > > ALFHEIM (Atmosphere, physical Overworld)
> > > NIFLHEIM (North) - Midgardr (Center) - MUSPELLSHEIM (South) -
> > JoETUNNHEIM (Beyond Sea that circles around the World) - VANAHEIM
(?)
> > > SVARTALFHEIM (Underground, physical Underworld)
> > > HELHEIM (Underworld)
> > >
> > > ????????
> > >
> > > Joao SL
> > > Rio
> >
> >
> >
> >