From: Peter T. Daniels
Message: 5177
Date: 2005-07-28
>I was saying that I certainly pronounce them differently; someone
> --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Bett" <stbett@...> wrote:
>
> > SB: The words "ale" and "day" would not be rewritten according to
> > the 4 rules. Since this is not a phonemic writing system, I am not
> > sure that it means that that every English speaker pronounces the
> > vowel in these words the same any more than the present writing
> > system implies this.
>
> T.O. actually implies that they are pronounced differently! The 'i'
> or 'y' of English -ai-/-ay typically corresponds to Old English 'g' or[hw] survives in parts of the Northeast -- upstate New York, western New
> (Old) French 'i'. I think the general merger of these sounds (with
> the development of lengthened OE short 'a') actually dates to the
> Great Vowel Shift.
>
> Was 'wat' (in 'Wat goes for') a spelling mistake for 'wot'? It seemed
> distinctly British (e.g. Norfolk - a Northwest accent would require
> 'what'). Incidentally, doesn't General American preserve the 'h'?