Richard Wordingham wrote:

>
> --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
> <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...>
> > wrote:
> > > Richard Wordingham wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Peter T. Daniels wrote on Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:47 PM
>
> > > There's no f in Greek. Or even Etruscan. It's a Latin innovation. Waw >
> > > digamma. Upsilon is a later development -- is it in all the epichoric
> > > alphabets?
>
> > Digamma *is* the Greek 'f' - used for /w/ of course. I don't know
> > what *you* mean by 'epichoric'. I did a quick google, and found a
> > chart at http://luna.cas.usf.edu/~murray/classes/cg/alphabet.htm .
> > According to that all the epichoric alphabets with digamma (or 'vau'
> > if you prefer) had upsilon distinct from it.
>
> Moreover, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal confirms that all epichoric
> alphabets had upsilon -
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nostratic-L/message/2000 . Were you
> looking for a second opinion?

Then why does Roger Woodard state that the "Fayum" [sic] plaques, which
provide an Aleph to Tav, or as he sees it Alpha to Tau, sequence, are
Greek rather than Phoenician abecedaries?

(He is a coauthor of their publication, which may or may not have seen
the light of day yet; the only source for them is two of his own books,
and that source doesn't yet appear in library catalogues.)

Come to think of it, my review of his latest might be of interest:

> The review by Peter T. Daniels for The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the World's Ancient Languages has been published.
>
> To view the review, please visit our website at the following url.
>
> http://www.bookreviews.org/BookDetail.asp?TitleId=4452
>
> TITLE: The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the World's Ancient Languages
> PUBLISHER: Cambridge University Press (2004)
>
> EDITOR: Roger D. Woodard

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Peter T. Daniels grammatim@...