From: Peter T. Daniels
Message: 2858
Date: 2004-07-09
> So Vico didn't know about syllabic systems but he knew that it"Should"?????? I reiterate, what's the big deal about the number 3?
> should be a tripartite chronological progression.
> I was thinking of two as offering a choice. Every writing systemNo, every writing system has to represent language.
> has to represent meaning. But then you can chose segments, whatever
> you call those things, or syllables, or both. So if you have onlyEVERY script creator who has created a script without knowing how to
> seen an alphabet, you might try to work it back to a syllabary.
> But if you have a syllabary you might jump sideways to a dualWho "jumped sideways"? The only script fitting this description is
> alphabet and syllabary. If you want something new you choose a
> syllabary if you want one, just like many First Nations are doingNo, all writing systems represent language,
> now in Canada. Or not, if you don't. Some nations which didn't use
> syllabics historically have adopted it - others have given it up.
> Some have adapted it differently.
>
> Language communities choose to have more or less of one or the other
> or both at once and a range of optional representation. So salient
> features are important but you can't stick a script in a particular
> class. It has certain characteristics because people choose to use
> it that way. Volition vs fate.
>
> > > How about the essential unity of all writing?
> >
> > What "essential unity"?
>
> Defrancis. All writing systems represent meaning; they all represent
> sound. It is more imnportant to see our similarity as human beingsand they do so by representing the sounds of speech.
> than our differences. Amen. (Not in his major book but maybe in--
> Taylor and Olson, Scripts and LIteracy.)
> >
> > > BTW thanks for the definition of abugida. More or less what I
> > > thought but Tamil and Ethiopic aren't similar in Unicode. Maybe
> > > Unicode ought not to use the term.
> >
> > I really don't give a good g*d damn what Unicode does.
>
> Tut, tut.