Re: Quasi-logographic

suzmccarth wrote:

>
> --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...>
> wrote:
> > suzmccarth wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Luciano Perondi (molotro) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> - there are only phonological and morphological
> > > > > > >> elements and a syllabic/phonemic continuum.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I cannot see any "morphological elements" in English
> > > spelling (apart
> > > > > > > perhaps
> > > > > > > word spacing and capital letters -- but these elements are
> > > certainly not
> > > > > > > unique to English).
> > >
> > > What is meant by the term morphophonemic? Does it not refer to
> > > English? - site/sight to distinguish homophones or no/know. I
> > > cannot agree that this is only historic because teens instant
> > > messaging now use no/noe to disambiguate, a new non-historic
> > > morphemic differentiation. What about the bound morpheme -ed used
> > > for /t/ or /@d/ or /d/. Isn't that a set spelling to represent past
> > > tense. How was the term quasi-logographic intended earlier?
> > >
> > > (Of course, I could not observe those who have Cherokee as their
> > > first language of literacy. However, Tamil and Cree are called neo-
> > > syllabaries by the French. Maybe that term is descriptive.)
> >
> > Sorry, but where does "morphophonemic" come up in the thread you've
> > quoted? It has nothing to do with orthography; it refers to interactions between
> > phonology and morphology.>
>
> Not in the thread but liberally referred to in
> www.spellingsociety.org recently posted.
>
> Here is a quote for what some understand by morphophonemic spelling.
>
> "Morphophonemic spelling is the representation of the underlying
> form of the morpheme, irrespective of its different surface
> alternations. Each root or affix would have a "constant visual
> image." The assumption is that the reader will recognize the word
> and will pronounce it automatically with the surface result of the
> morphophonological alternations'.
> http://www.sil.org/lingualinks/literacy/ReferenceMaterials/GlossaryOf
> LiteracyTerms/WhatIsMorphophonemicSpelling.
>
> What did you mean by quasi-logographic?
>
> > What do you mean by "bound morpheme"?
>
> bound versus free, or roots versus affix

But how was it relevant to your question?

> > The morpheme {PAST} is realized in those three different ways after
> > particular final sounds on verbs, parallel to the way {3SG} is realized
> > in comparable environments.
>
> Yes but the morpheme {PAST} is not represented phonemically in
> written English.

?

The morpheme {PAST} is realized in three regular ways and a number of
irregular ways. They are all represented by English orthography.

> > Which "French" use the term "neosyllabary"?

No answer ...

Do you see what you do?

You asked about "morphophonemic," but you intended "morphophonemic
spelling." It seems like you've been doing that for weeks. You've really
got to learn to walk before you can run!
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@...