Re: Quasi-logographic

--- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...>
wrote:

> suzmccarth wrote:
> >
> > --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...>
> > wrote:
> > > Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Luciano Perondi (molotro) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> - there are only phonological and morphological
> > > > > >> elements and a syllabic/phonemic continuum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I cannot see any "morphological elements" in English
> > spelling (apart
> > > > > > perhaps
> > > > > > word spacing and capital letters -- but these elements

are

> > certainly
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > unique to English).
> >
> > What is meant by the term morphophonemic? Does it not refer to
> > English? - site/sight to distinguish homophones or no/know. I
> > cannot agree that this is only historic because teens instant
> > messaging now use no/noe to disambiguate, a new non-historic
> > morphemic differentiation. What about the bound morpheme -ed

used

> > for /t/ or /@d/ or /d/. Isn't that a set spelling to represent

past

> > tense. How was the term quasi-logographic intended earlier?
> >
> > (Of course, I could not observe those who have Cherokee as their
> > first language of literacy. However, Tamil and Cree are called

neo-

> > syllabaries by the French. Maybe that term is descriptive.)
>
> Sorry, but where does "morphophonemic" come up in the thread you've
> quoted? It has nothing to do with orthography; it refers to

interactions between

> phonology and morphology.>

Not in the thread but liberally referred to in
www.spellingsociety.org recently posted.

Here is a quote for what some understand by morphophonemic spelling.

"Morphophonemic spelling is the representation of the underlying
form of the morpheme, irrespective of its different surface
alternations. Each root or affix would have a "constant visual
image." The assumption is that the reader will recognize the word
and will pronounce it automatically with the surface result of the
morphophonological alternations'.
http://www.sil.org/lingualinks/literacy/ReferenceMaterials/GlossaryOf
LiteracyTerms/WhatIsMorphophonemicSpelling.

What did you mean by quasi-logographic?

> What do you mean by "bound morpheme"?

bound versus free, or roots versus affix

>
> The morpheme {PAST} is realized in those three different ways after
> particular final sounds on verbs, parallel to the way {3SG} is

realized

> in comparable environments.

Yes but the morpheme {PAST} is not represented phonemically in
written English.

>
> Which "French" use the term "neosyllabary"?
> --
> Peter T. Daniels grammatim@...

Suzanne McCarthy