--- Marco Cimarosti <marco.cimarosti@...>
wrote: > Andrew Dunbar wrote:

> > At the risk of upsetting the 8-bit email gods,
> > it's "ÕÏÇã ÍÓíä" in Arabic which, using
> > Unicode's names for Arabic letters
> > is "sad.dal.alef.meem hah.seen.yeh.noon"
> >
> > Finding the version with vowels may be trickier...
>
> But not impossible:
>
> http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2000/02/fc.gif
>
> (OK, considering the object of the document and its
> source, everybody's advised to take it with a grain
> of salt... However, I hope that the USA
> administration has no interest in spreading
> disinformation *even* on Arabic spelling!)

Oddly, using this spelling in Google gets not a single
hit! I would expect a fully voweled version to retain
the fatah above the shaddah.

I've never been able to find anything to tell me what
variations of Arabic orthography are legitimate, or if
you can just include or omit any of the marks, without
regard to any of the other marks.

Plain text has no vowels, no sukuns, no shaddahs.
Fully voweled text has vowels, sukuns, and shaddahs.
But in-between these extremes I'm a bit vague. Are all
these combinations as acceptable?

1. vowels but no shaddahs or sukuns.
2. shaddahs but no vowels or sukuns.
3. shaddahs and sukuns but no vowels.
4. vowels with shaddahs or sukuns but not both.

Or maybe there are orthographies which use some of
these in certain situations only. I know there are in
Persian.

Hamza on Alef is optional yet common in unvoweled text
but hamza below alef is much rarer, as are hamza on
waw and yeh.

The double fatah, dammah, kasrah (nunnation), are very
rarely seen. Same with alef wasla etc.

Most of my observations are based solely on what I can
find on the internet so may be due to character set,
font, input, or display deficiencies.

Ready to be enlightened, Andrew Dunbar.

> _ Marco
>
>

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