From: Peter T. Daniels
Message: 2288
Date: 2004-05-31
>See Gleason, Intro to Descriptive Linguistics (1961), 18f.:
> --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, John Cowan <cowan@...> wrote:
> > Michael Everson scripsit:
> >
> > > Seizure and (be)sieger?
> >
> > The context of my original remark appears to have been lost.
> Instances
> > of [Z] that are transparently derived from /zj/ are out of the
> case.
> > The issue is to find a contrast between [dZ] and [Z] where the
> latter
> > could *not* be analyzed as /zj/.
> >
> > The nearest thing to a minimal pair I've found so far in my
> idiolect is
> > page [dZ] and beige [Z].
>
> Yes - I realized later that I had not read the original context
> (about /zj/) and was only looking for both word final and
> intervocalic minimal pairs or approximations like beige and page.