----- Original Message -----From: Sergejus TarasovasSent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:45 AMSubject: RE: [phoNet] IllabialAnd I can add that when they teach Russians to pronounce Estonian <õ> they recommend to pronounce DELABIALIZED Russian [u]Sergei... which probably means that Estonian <õ> is back [ɤ] rather than central [ə] (if "mittelhoch").Piotr