Re: About: maṇati

 

Jim,

If it's no hassle, could you send me the Dhātumālā file and the list of roots only that you prepared? It'd be nice to have in my files for future reference. I couldn't find the Dhātumālā or Saddanīti on tipitaka.org, but I haven't yet been home to install and explore the CST4 on myPC, and have been having an issue getting it to work properly on my Linux laptop.

Mettā,

Chris

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:27 AM, 'Jim Anderson' jimanderson.on@... [palistudy] <palistudy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Dear Huynh Trong Khanh,

<< Here the word (maṇati) came together with (iti) will be regarded as
(Definition of maṇati), right? >>

No, veraṃ maṇati is part of the explanation of veramaṇī. It gives the
etymology (nibbacanaṃ) with some information such as that 'veramaṇī' has a
root 'maṇ' and that the word is a compound (an accusative tappurisa?).

<< So the sentence could be re-structured as: Tattha byañjanato maṇatīti:
tāva veraṃ veramaṇī >>

"tāva" (firstly) belongs to the introuductory part: Tattha byañjanato tāva:

<< So (Definition of maṇati) = tāva veraṃ veramaṇī >>

No, the explanation of maṇati is given in the words beginning with pajahati
which are its synonyms.

There is much more on 'veramaṇī' in the commentary which has been translated
into English by Ñāṇamoḷi and published by PTS.

The Dhātumālā, the second of three volumes of the Saddanīti (12th cent.),
can be accessed online at tipitaka.org although only one chapter at a time.
For searching the whole volume, it is best to have it in one file which I
can send you if you like or copy and paste the chapters from the website.
I made my file from the CST4 software version. The text is like a
dictionary of roots although not in alphabetical order but rather in 8
verbal classes. There are 3 schools of traditonal Pali grammar (Kaccāyana,
Saddanīti, and Moggallāna).

Best wishes,

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "KHANH TRONG HUYNH testsuda@... [palistudy]"
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To: <palistudy@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: September 18, 2016 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [palistudy] About: maṇati

Dear Jim,

Thanks so much for your support. I have improved my searching skill from
what you showed. However, I would like to confirm with you as:

Tattha byañjanato tāva veraṃ maṇatīti veramaṇī

Here the word (maṇati) came together with (iti) will be regarded as
(Definition of maṇati), right? So the sentence could be re-structured as:
Tattha byañjanato maṇatīti: tāva veraṃ veramaṇī

So (Definition of maṇati) = tāva veraṃ veramaṇī

Sincerely yours,

Huynh Trong Khanh

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From: "'Jim Anderson' jimanderson.on@... [palistudy]"
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To: palistudy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [palistudy] About: maṇati

There is also this from the Khuddakapaṭha-aṭṭhakathā (Pj I 24):

Tattha byañjanato tāva veraṃ maṇatīti veramaṇī, veraṃ pajahati, vinodeti,
byantīkaroti, anabhāvaṃ gametīti attho. Viramati vā etāya karaṇabhūtāya
veramhā puggaloti, vikārassa vekāraṃ katvā veramaṇī.