Re: jaññā

From: Bryan Levman
Message: 4582
Date: 2016-03-26

Yes, you're right, there's already an -n- in the stem, so only one -ñ- is appropriate. Thanks for pointing this out.

I had coffee with Anne Harley a week ago - she's quite nice and had nice things to say about her meeting with you


Best wishes,

Bryan





From: "'Jim Anderson' jimanderson.on@... [palistudy]" <palistudy@yahoogroups.com>
To: palistudy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [palistudy] jaññā

 
Hi Bryan,

I think the ññā given at Sd 1021 (Sadd III 834,19-21 Smith) should read ñā.
I checked the Thai edn. of the Saddanīti and found the reading ñā as with
Kacc 508.

I'll leave the historical and comparative methods to you regarding jaññā. My
point was only to get some idea of what the Pali grammatical texts have to
say about the term and also about how words are formed with √ñā.

Best wishes,

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Levman bryan.levman@... [palistudy]"
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Sent: March 26, 2016 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [palistudy] jaññā

Thanks Jim,
Saddanīti gives the quote (from Ja. 539) jaññā so yadi hāyaye (or hāpaye),
"he would know if he abandons..." and here the commentary specifically
equates jaññā = jāneyya.
Sadd (834) also gives the same equivalence (as you point out) for ññā = iyā
= eyya (jaññā = jāniyā = jāneyya), although how phonologically -ññā can be a
substitute for -eyya, I can't see. The -eyya ending rather seems to come
from the Skt. thematic conjugations in ātmanepada form (e.g. bhaveta in Skt.
> bhaveyya in Pāli), which is a simple enough transformation (lenition of an
intervocalic stop > a glide), not from the jānīyāt form. So the reason jñā
became so complicated is that it adopted both the thematic and the
non-thematic forms of the Skt. conjugations (or they just got mixed up, as
people forgot the difference). If one looks in Fuchs there over two pages of
different forms for the jñā verb, much more than in Skt.

Best wishes, Bryan

From: "'Jim Anderson' jimanderson.on@... [palistudy]"
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To: Pali Study Group <palistudy@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [palistudy] jaññā

Some observations:

I had a brief look at how the verb "jañña" is formed from the perspective of
traditional Pali grammar, especially that of Kaccāyana with the help of its
commentary, the Nyāsa (Mmd). There are also parallel rules given in the
Saddanīti and Moggallāna.




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