Re: kukkucca

From: Kumara Bhikkhu
Message: 4419
Date: 2015-10-05

Thanks, Jim. To sum it up, it means "the state of having done bad".
So, "regret" seems sufficient for me.

with mettâ,
Kumâra Bhikkhu, ven.

'Jim Anderson' jimanderson.on@...
[palistudy] wrote thus at 04:08 AM 05-10-15:
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>Dear Ven. Kumara,
>
>I don't think there's any problem in dropping the "deep" in "deep regret" as
>there can be a broad range of degrees.  However I do wonder about the true
>meaning of "kukkucca" and the English renderings of the term.
>
>The ṭīkā to the Abhidhānappadīpikā
>explains the etymology of the term as
>follows which may be of interest to you:
>
>“ Kucchitaṃ karotīti kukkutaṃ, cittaṃ,
>taṃsamaṅgī vā, tassa bhāvo
>kukkuccaṃ. ” -- ad Abh 169
>
>I understand this to mean that the 'ku' (bad or ill) is an indeclinable,
>that 'kuta' comes from the verbal root 'kar' (to do) and has a past
>participle suffix "ta". The word 'kukkuta' (an agent-noun) suggests a doer
>that has done something bad.  A further (secondary) suffix 'ya' is added to
>give the sense of "the state of" (a mind (or its concomitants) that did, is
>doing, or will do something bad.)
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Jim
>
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>Subject: [palistudy] kukkucca
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>Dear venerables and friends,
>
>This Pali word has been often translated as
>either "remorse" or "worry". Etymologically,
>"remorse" seems more reasonable. But it's also carries a rather strong
>meaning.
>
>My dictionary says "A feeling of deep regret
>(usually for some misdeed)." The "misdeed" part
>fits in well, but "deep" seems too much in this
>case. Why not "regret"? It's a lighter word, yet
>enough to prevent the settling of mind.
>
>with mettâ,
>Kumâra Bhikkhu, ven.
>
>
>
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