Re: Paali question

Hi Stephen,

Yes the Chinese seem to take it more in the sense of chandas as chanting or reciting according to rule, as you will see. But when Buddha talks about guóyīn (in the Mahii"saasaka Vinaya 國音) he seems to be referring to the local Prakrit. Lamotte translates as "in keeping with the dialectal pronunciation" (prade"sa-svara) and Levi as "Je permets qu'on recite comme on parle dans chaque royaume." Let me know if you come up with any other versions. I've been looking for a BHS and Tibetan version but haven't found one yet,- does the MahasaMghika Vinaya exist in BHS or just in Chinese?

Best wishes, Bryan




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From: Stephen Hodge <s.hodge@...>
To: palistudy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 4:00:06 PM
Subject: Re: [palistudy] Paali question

   
Dear Bryan,

Thank you for the Taisho references.  I'll have a look at the passages with
interest, but the presence of the incident / quotation in these Vinayas is
not so surprising given the derivational relationship of those schools.  As
Lamotte has not given anything for the Mahasanghika Vinaya, I assume that
there is no such ruling found there, which suggests that it was interpolated
after the big schism, but before the other schools went their seperate ways.
I wonder if this ruling was perhaps created contra the Mahasanghikas,
although their early material was also in a Prakrit so that would probably
be unlikely.  On the other hand, not everybody reads the key term in this
ruling as equivalent "Sanskrit".

Best wishes,
Stephen Hodge


   


      

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