Re: S IV 163

I am going to ask for a small degree of patience and co-operation from
all in simply establishing WHAT exactly the text is that we're
discussing: L.C. has suggested that there is a crucial inconsistency,
perhaps one that originally existed in a comparison between MS
traditions, but it has now been internalized, and existing as an
inconsistency within the PTS edition, perhaps within all of the
Burmese council derived texts?

I am using the vertical line instead of the comma, and two vertical
lines, similarly, for the double-danda (viz., the end of the
sentence).  I am not inserting any commas where the text lacks them
--merely (as of this moment) to try to establish exactly what the text
is (viz., not controverting O.P's suggestion).  You'll see that I'm
using line-breaks (carriage returns) simply to make the text easier to
read, not reflecting any mark in the source.

In a few places, I use block capitals to draw attention to variations
(such as one /NA/ vs. two).

I'm going to proliferate the roman numerals through to the end of the
sutta.  Here is the pattern as I am reading it:

(i)
Kinnu kho āvuso sāriputta [...]
mano dhammānaŋ saññojanaŋ |
dhammā manassa saññojananti ||

(ii)
Na kho āvuso koṭṭhita [...]
Mano dhammānaŋ saññojanaŋ |
NA dhammā manassa saññojanaŋ ||

(iii)
[...] Na kho āvuso
kāḷo balivaddo odātassa balivaddassa saññojanaŋ |
NAPI odāto balivaddo kāḷassa balivaddassa saññojanaŋ |
yena ca kho te ekena dāmena vā yottena vā saŋyuttā |
taŋ tattha saññejanaŋ ||

(iv)
Evameva kho āvuso [...]
NA mano dhammānaŋ saññojanaŋ |
NA dhammā manassa saññojanaŋ ||
Yañca tattha tadubhayaŋ paṭicca uppajjati
chandarāgo taŋ tattha saññojanaŋ ||

[NB: the paragraph introducing "brahmacariya" to the conversation is
here passed over without comment or quotation, as it does not have a
phrase in parallel structure, etc., that could serve to elucidate the
matter at hand]

(v)
Mano vā āvuso dhammānaŋ saññojanaŋ abhavissa |
dhammā vā manassa saññojanaŋ abhavissa |
na idaŋ brahmacariyavāso paññāyetha sammā dukkhakkhayāya |
yasmā ca kho āvuso na mano dhammānaŋ saññojanaŋ na dhammā manassa saññojanaŋ |
yañca tattha tadubhayaŋ paṭicca uppajjati chandarāgo taŋ tattha saññojanaŋ |
tasmā brahmacariyavāso paññāyati sammādukkhayāya ||

(vi)
Tadamināpetaŋ āvuso pariyāyena veditabbaŋ [...]
NA mano dhammānaŋ saññojanaŋ |
NA dhammā manassa saññojanaŋ |
yañca tattha tadubhayaŋ paṭicca uppajjati chandarāgo taŋ tattha saññojanaŋ ||

(vii)
Saŋvijjati kho āvuso bhagavato mano |
jānāti bhagavā manasā dhammaŋ |
chandarāgo bhagavato natthi |
suvimuttacitto bhagavā ||

(viii)
NA mano dhammānaŋ saññojanaŋ |
NA dhammā manassa saññojanaŋ |
yañca tattha tadubhayaŋ paṭicca uppajjati chandarāgo taŋ tattha saññojananti ||

[END]

E.M.