Re: Vism

to Bhikkhu Nyanatusita, Jim and Ole:

Looking at the phrase as it occurs at Vism 30, it is there quite clear
that we have two things:

1. Viitikkama of the six relevant training rules

Buddhaghosa explains this in terms of the various aapatti and the
consequent penalties in the case of transgression (viitikkama).

2. Paapadhamma

The various bad dhammas which Buddhaghosa explains both with the list
taken from the Vibhanga and by reference to the mahaasiilas of the the
Siilakkhandhavagga of DN.

Here at Vism 30 it is more explicit:

channa.m sikkhaapadaana.m viitikkamavasena imesa~n ca kuhanaa . . . ti
evam aadiina.m paapadhammaana.m vasena pavatto micchaajiivo

As far as I can see, this can only mean that the paapadhammas are
somehow considered to underlie the training rules. Or, is there some
other way to take it ?

Lance