Re: te suta.m/me suta.m

From: Jim Anderson
Message: 2243
Date: 2007-09-23

Dear Ole,

A few comments and questions:

> suta.m is evidently a noun constructed with the pronoun te "your hearing"

I think the following passage at M I 238,12 has some similarity to your
passage: "kinti pana te aggivessana kaayabhaavanaa sutaati." -- But,
Aggivessana, has the development of the body been heard by you? It is clear
from the fem. sing. inflection of "sutaa" that this cannot be an action noun
and I would suggest the same holds for the 'suta.m" in the D III passage
even though it's in the neuter. I think the reason for the neuter in the
first interpretation of eva.m me suta.m discussed earlier is that the entire
discourse following the "suta.m" and ending in "ti" is taken as a neuter (x
(neuter) was heard (neuter) by me).

> the other genitives are constructed with suta.m as the object of suta.m
> (well-known from both Pali and Sanskrit), "Perhaps you hear the wanderers
> ..... saying ..... yes, I hear them saying ....

Isn't it possible that the genitive phrase following "suta.m" is directly
connected to the quotes that follow in a possesive relation (the quotes of
the wanderers) rather than as the object of "suta.m"? Couldn't it be that
the quotes themselves are the objects of "sut.am"? Another point I should
make is that if you take the genitive phrase as the object of "suta.m", the
agent "te" cannot be in the genitive case as well and would have to be taken
in the instrumental. This is according to Paa.n II 3:66 which states that
the agent and the object cannot both be in the genitive case in the same
sentence with a k.rt word serving as the verb.

Best wishes,
Jim

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