Re: nimitta, animitta.
From: Nina van Gorkom
Message: 1528
Date: 2005-11-25
Dear Jim,
Thank you for the trouble. I just add a few guesses, not more.
op 24-11-2005 20:34 schreef Jim Anderson op jimanderson_on@...:
> << So I am interested in aaramma.naa naama saaramma.nadhammaana.m
> visesato uppattinimittanti.
. I have a problem with the word 'visesato'. Should it
> be taken as an adverbial (in particular, particularly, especially)?
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N: Or distinctly? Severally?
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> Also, "aaramma.naa" which seems to be in the ablative singular (from
> the object?) is not clear.
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N:could it be depending on an object?
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J:To get a better understanding I think one
> would have to study it in a larger context, that is, to follow it back
> to the original word/passage in the MN sutta and also to be more
> familiar with the Abhidhamma technical explanations in Pali.
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N: Jonothan gave a few texts: (a) AA "The signless liberation of mind
(animittacetovimutti) is strong
insight; but the reciters of the Digha Nikaya say that it is the
fruition attainment of arahantship, for that is called 'signless'
because of the absence of the signs of lust, etc., of the signs of
forms, etc., and the signs of permanence, etc."
(b) In MN43 "the signless liberation of mind" is explained in a way
that clearly connects it with the fruition of arahantship: there lust,
hatred and delusion are declared to be "sign-makers" (nimittakarana),
which the arahant has totally abandoned.
(c) Elsewhere, however, a "signless concentration" (animitta-samadhi)
is referred to in a context which makes it plain that the one who has
attained it is not yet an arahant; see e.g., MN 121, SN 40:9.
(d) The "sign of forms", etc., is nothing other than the form itself,
taken as an object of attachment; see MN 138 and Comy.>
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N: Nimittakara.na: what causes the arising of conditioned dhammas.
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J: I think
> 'uppattinimitta.m' can be translated as 'the cause of the arising (of
> dhammas having objects)'.
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N: Or as nimitta which is conditioned dhamma. What kind of compound is the
big question.
Nina.