Re: about api

Dear Sayadaw Dhammanando, Sayadaw Ashin Pandita (and all)

How are you?

Sayadaw Dhammanando Bhikkhu wrote:

"3. apekkhaa (var. pekkhaa) (focussing?)

The example given is from the Paatimokkha:

ayampi dhammo aniyato
"This training rule is indeterminate."

I have no idea what purpose api serves here."

Suan:

  Apekkhaa (looking back) refers back to the previous cases.

ayampi dhammo aniyato
"This training rule, too, is indeterminate."

A suitable paraphrase would be:

"As the previous training rules under discussion are indeterminate,
so is this one."

DB:

"I wonder, would api-samuccaye be the same as the
api-sampi.n.danatthe that one sometimes meets with in the
commentaries?"

S:

Yes, according to the Jambudiipa Temple Sayadaws at Kambhaae in
Rangoon who compiled Tipi.taka Pali-Myanmar Dictionary Volumes (A-
vaggo). But, they noted that Tipi.taka Niyam and Shewraesaung (Gilt
Temple) Niyam (Saddaa Rule Guides) mentioned their differences.
Unfortunately, I have no access to those guides.

DB:

"6. sa.mvara.ne (closing, obstructing)
Example:

apidhaana.m
"A lid."

Does sa.mvara.na only apply where api is used as a prefix?"

S:

Apidhaana.m to mean a lid is a separate noun entry in the Tipi.taka
Pali-Myanmar Dictionary where it also notes the occurrence of the
form "pidhaana.m" from Dhammapada Atthakathaa.

DB:

"7. aasi.msaa / aasiisaa (hoping)

No examples given in the Padaruupasiddhi or
Abhidhaanappadiipikaa.tiikaa."

S:

Api meyya (me ayya) evam hoti - . Section 527, Paaraajikaka.n.da,
Vinaya Pi.taka.

Good lord, such a wish happens to me that ..!


With fivefold-touch bow,

Suan



--- In palistudy@yahoogroups.com, Dhammanando Bhikkhu
<dhammanando@...> wrote:

Dear Bhante & Suan,

Thanks very much for your examples and explanations.
Sambhaavanaa is clear to me now. I should much appreciate it
if you would comment on the remaining five uses of api (though
only if you are not too busy). I have listed them below, with
tentative translations.


3. apekkhaa (var. pekkhaa) (focussing?)

The example given is from the Paatimokkha:

ayampi dhammo aniyato
"This training rule is indeterminate."

I have no idea what purpose api serves here.

4. samuccaye (collective)

Examples:

itipi araha.m
antampi antagu.nampi aadaaya

I wonder, would api-samuccaye be the same as the
api-sampi.n.danatthe that one sometimes meets with in the
commentaries? For example, the Udaana to the Appaayuka Sutta
reads:

ye keci bhuutaa bhavissanti ye vaapi,
sabbe gamissanti pahaaya deha.m
ta.m sabbajaani.m kusalo viditvaa,
aataapiyo brahmacariya.m careyyaa ti
(Ud. 48)

The Atthakathaa then glosses api on the first line:

"api" saddo sampi.n.danattho. tena nibbattamaanepi
sa`nga.nhaati.

5. pa~nhe (interrogative)

api bhante bhikkha.m labhittha?

This one seems simple enough.

6. sa.mvara.ne (closing, obstructing)
Example:

apidhaana.m
"A lid."

Does sa.mvara.na only apply where api is used as a prefix?

7. aasi.msaa / aasiisaa (hoping)

No examples given in the Padaruupasiddhi or
Abhidhaanappadiipikaa.tiikaa.

Best wishes,

Dhammanando