Re: bhavata.nhaa vs. ta.nhaa for bhava
From: onco111
Message: 543
Date: 2002-07-05
N: the question is more complex, different classifications. In the
Vis. XVII, 233, under craving, it is as Jim said, when with eternity
view one assumes an object to be lasting, there is craving for
becoming. But when we look under cankers, asavas, we have:
kaamaasava, bhavaasava, di.t.thaasava and avijjaasava. In the Vis.
XXII, about abandoning, 70, it is as I suggested. In the Abhidhammata
Sangaha, now on line as the Guide, in my translation of Ven. Narada,
there is a note about tanhaa: (Ch on Paticcasamuppaada) this has the
two classifications, first one , bhavatanhaa with eternity view, and
second: bhavatanhaa and vibhavatanhaa are also interpreteted as
attachment to ruupa and aruupa planes. I think it depends under what
aspect and what heading realities are classified. I would think that
craving for birth that is not birth in sensuous planes can be
classified as bhavatanha and I think that this in the case of ariyans
is not involved with wrong view. But they can still long for the
results of jhana, until they have become an arahat.
--> Dan: Thanks, Nina. This is exactly what I was looking for.