From: Bhikkhuni Sobhana
Message: 15583
Date: 2011-10-03
On Oct 1, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Buddhayatana wrote:
> Hello Martha Turner,
>
> have you tried to access Rhys Davids' dictionary through
> http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/pali/ ?
>
> If you include on your MacOS system the Unicode Times_Norman font the
> PTS provides on www.palitext.com/
>
> you should have no problem... in principle.
>
> Mettâ
>
> Jîvasattha, Buddhâyatana
>
>
> On 2011.10.01 19:30, Pali@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>> There are 4 messages in this issue.
>>
>> Topics in this digest:
>>
>> 1a. Re: Pali Fonts and Pali-English Dictionary
>> From: Santindriya
>> 1b. Re: Pali Fonts and Pali-English Dictionary
>> From: Leonard
>> 1c. Re: Pali Fonts and Pali-English Dictionary - Unicode reminder>
>> use
>> From: Ong Yong Peng
>>
>> 2. difficulty with PTS dictionary and diacritics
>> From: Martha Turner
>>
>>
>> Messages
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 1a. Re: Pali Fonts and Pali-English Dictionary
>> Posted by: "Santindriya" sintai@... kohyk48
>> Date: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:13 pm ((PDT))
>>
>> Hi Nina,
>>
>> Are you the same Nina van Gorkom who wrote books like Abhidhamma in
>> Daily Life and The Buddhist Teachings on Physical Phenomena?
>>
>> If yes, very glad to be able communicate with you.
>>
>> I am currently studying Pali at Ruwan Buddhist Society (Singapore)
>> with Venerable K Somananda.
>>
>> Do you have any PDF books on learning Pali and dictionary to
>> recommend?
>>
>> May you be well and happy always.
>>
>> Santindriya.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Nina van Gorkom<vangorko@...> wrote:
>>> Dear Koh YK,
>>>
>>> Op 26-sep-2011, om 5:19 heeft Koh YK het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>> I am new to Pali@yahoogroups.com, having joined the group recently.
>>>> This is my first posting.
>>>>
>>>> I have been searching the WWW for Pali fonts for several years.
>>>> Many of the Pali fonts that I downloaded do not have all the
>>>> symbols.
>>> ------
>>> N: Welcome here. Many in this group are very good with fonts. I
>>> could
>>> solve my problem with some help.
>>> If you have questions on Pali grammar, any question, you are most
>>> welcome. Did you study a grammar book?
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Nina.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Messages in this topic (5)
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 1b. Re: Pali Fonts and Pali-English Dictionary
>> Posted by: "Leonard" kamleong_lai@... kamleong_lai
>> Date: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:13 pm ((PDT))
>>
>> Hi Santindriya,
>>
>> Welcome to the group. About the Pali Fonts, if you are using
>> Windows XP and above, I think "Tahoma" (installed by default)
>> should be able to display all the below Unicode diacritic
>> characters (used for Romanized Pali) correctly.
>>
>> ṃḥṛḷāīū ê ôṅ
>> ñṭḍṇśṣ
>>
>> Some older web pages or applications may still use non-unicode
>> representation for those diacritic characters. In that case, you
>> will need to install the specific font depends on which encoding
>> schema they used.
>>
>> See also
>> http://www.tipitaka.net/tipitaka/spectra/fonts_display
>> http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/img/fontsdl.html
>> http://www.bps.lk/onlinelibrary.asp
>>
>> regards,
>> KL Lai
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Messages in this topic (5)
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 1c. Re: Pali Fonts and Pali-English Dictionary - Unicode reminder>
>> use
>> Posted by: "Ong Yong Peng" palismith@... ypong001
>> Date: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:24 pm ((PDT))
>>
>> Dear Nina, Yong Kiang and KL,
>>
>> yes, I have been asking members to post in Velthuis (again). But, I
>> intentionally allow this to come through. As you should realise,
>> the whole process of delivering even a character to your screen is
>> complex. Having the right font which support Unicode is just one of
>> the requirements at your end.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Yahoo! Groups still does not fully support Unicode.
>> Please always use Velthuis. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> metta,
>> Yong Peng.
>>
>> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Leonard wrote:
>>
>> ṃḥṛḷāīū ê ôṅ
>> ñṭḍṇśṣ
>>
>> Some older web pages or applications may still use non-unicode
>> representation for those diacritic characters. In that case, you
>> will need to install the specific font depends on which encoding
>> schema they used.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Messages in this topic (5)
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 2. difficulty with PTS dictionary and diacritics
>> Posted by: "Martha Turner" mxi@... marthaleeturner
>> Date: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:14 pm ((PDT))
>>
>> Let me apologize in advance: This is a much more basic question
>> than what I have been seeing on this list. I have been struggling
>> with using the PTS dictionary online for about three months now,
>> thinking surely my difficulties would resolve with just random
>> trying of things. Now I am looking for help.
>>
>> THE PROBLEM: The PTS dictionary seems unpredictable in whether it
>> returns a response when a diacritic is entered in the search box.
>> For example: I looked up aññęá’Ωa and saw that the
>> etymology was [a + ñęá’Ωa]. I cut and pasted Ã
>> ±Ä™á’Ωa and got nothing. I progressively truncated it,
>> receiving nothing, up to just ñ --still, 0 entries. Tried other
>> methods of entering my ñ--0 entries. There are no words in this
>> dictionary beginning with ñ? (The Gair and Karunatillake reader
>> lists 6 entries in its glossary beginning with ñ.) Similarly, a
>> search for words beginning with Ä™ returns only two words! (I
>> just don't believe it.)
>>
>> Sometimes, however, it seems to return an appropriate result. When
>> it returns an unlikely result, however, it persists over weeks with
>> the same unlikely result (only two words beginning Ä™, for
>> example).
>>
>> SOME TECHNICAL SPECIFICS: am using a Mac running OSX 10.6.8,
>> Safari, my default font is Times New Roman (a unicode-enabled
>> font), and my default encoding is UTF-8. I have tried Firefox a
>> few times, the results have the same problems.
>>
>> Typically I am selecting "Search entry words only (not
>> definitions)" and "Words starting with." (Tho, yes, I have tried
>> other search parameters.) Typically, I am truncating material at
>> the end--often truncating progressively more material until I get a
>> result that I can scroll through. Sometimes this works--but too
>> often it gets me nothing.
>>
>> I have tried using Edit>Special Characters>Insert to insert
>> characters with diacritics AND have tried copying and pasting my
>> word from the PTS text (generally accessed through
>> accesstoinsight.org) AND have tried copying and pasting my word
>> from a PTS dictionary entry: same results.
>>
>> Please excuse the rudimentary nature of this inquiry; I would be
>> most grateful for any help anyone can give. Thank you.
>>
>>
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