Venerable Dhammadarsa,
Op 7-feb-2011, om 10:45 heeft Dhammadarsa het volgende geschreven:

> Regarding the use of giving and the dative case, I understand that
> you don't
> think it matters if the thing is material or not.
>
> Is there any evidence to show that Nina's opinion is the case? As I
> said, I
> have not seen in NPC "give" and the dative with a immaterial thing/
> abstract
> noun. I think if we had a sentence like "Buddho dhamma.m
> manussaana.m deti."
> That would support Nina's kind reply and be supportive evidence for
> the
> indirect use of "speaking the Dhamma to." in the sense of "giving"
> and the
> receiver therefore being in the dative.

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N: I looked up Warder grammar, the dative, Lesson 12.
<The fourth or dative (catutthii, sampadaana) is used to express the
purpose for which an action is done and the person to whom something
is given ("indirect object"). The dative may express the person for
whom something is done or to whom something which happens is
advantageous ("dative of advantage") It is used also with a number of
individual verbs....>
It explains that <the dative is used with the verb (k)kam meaning to
please (someone=dative) and with the same verb when it means "to
forgive" (someone=dative, something=accusative). >
N: Forgiving can also be seen as a kind of daana: you give someone
else the opportunity to live free from danger or fear, bhaya. It is
mentioned as abhaya daana. Another spiritual gift!

With respect,
Nina.




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