Dear Bryan,
Op 24-dec-2009, om 12:45 heeft Bryan Levman het volgende geschreven:

> N: Usually we pay attention to
> >the outward appearance of things and the details and take them for
> >real. That is a delusion, as we read in the suttas. We usually take
> >concepts for realities.
>
> That was well put and is in fact the subject of a whole Mahāyāna
> sūtra (the Saṃdhinirmocana Sūtra). Are you familiar with
> anywhere in the Pāli scriptures where the Buddha discusses that, i.
> e. our propensity to superimpose a concept on reality and take it
> as real and permanent?
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N: M. sutta 27, Cuu.lahatthipadopamasutta.m:
<So cakkhuunaa ruupa.m disvaa na nimittaggaahii hoti
naanubya~njanaggaahii; yatvaadhikara.nam ena.m cakkhundriya.m
sa.mvuta.m viharanta.m abhijjhaadomanassaa paapaka akusalaa dhammaa
anvaassaveyu.m tassa sa.mvaraaya pa.tipajjati, rakkhati cakkhundriye
sa.mvara.m aapajjati. Sotena sadda.m sutvaa- pe pe >

PTS transl: <Having seen material shape with the eye, he is not
entranced by the general appearance, he is not entranced by the
detail. If he dwells with this organ of sight uncontrolled,
covetousness and dejection, evil states of mind, might predominate.
So he fares along controlling it; he guards the organ of sight, he
comes to control over the organ of sight...(the same for the other
doorways).
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Nina.




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