Re: citta, mano and vi~n~naa.na {Re: [Pali] On manas, IQ, EQ and SQ}

From: Nina van Gorkom
Message: 13401
Date: 2009-03-03

Venerable Bhikkhu Kumara,
Op 3-mrt-2009, om 9:47 heeft Kumara Bhikkhu het volgende geschreven:

> There's a problem in equating citta, mano and vi~n~naa.na. If mano
> and vi~n~naa.na (leaving out citta for now) are the same, what then
> is manovi~n~naa.na, which is the among the six kinds of vi~n~naa.na
> (cakkhuvi~n~naa.na, etc.)? This issue is briefly addressed in ITBW
> p.310 and CDB p.769-770 n.154.
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N: Yes, this is a sixfold classification we find in the Suttanta:
mano-vi~n~naa.na are all the cittas that are not seeing, hearing etc.
But this is not the only way of classification of citta.
I cannot get at the texts you refer to.
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>
> Bhikkhu: I quote from B.Bodhi's note: "It's citta that is to be
> understood, trained and liberated." We certainly don't need to
> train the vi~n~naa.na, which does its job no matter what.
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N: I think this is a way of explaining mental training. But I cannot
say much since I do not have the context. Different terms in
different contexts, but no matter citta or vi~n~naa.na, they do their
job. There is no one who could interfere.
With respect,
Nina.



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