Dear Piya,

Thank you for your suggestions. But, alas, they do not fit. The emphasis
should be on Buddhas etc dying. However, this verse may possibly not be
preserved in the Pali tradition ~ its immediate source would have been
Mahasanghika. If it's any help, here is the Chinese text:

諸佛與緣覺 及以弟子眾
猶捨無常身 何況諸凡夫


Best wishes,
Stephen Hodge

----- Original Message -----
From: "Piya Tan" <dharmafarer@...>
To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Pali] Pasenadi verse


Stephen,

This is what you are looking for (from the Ayyikaa Sutta):

Sabbe sattā marissanti,
maraṇantañhi jīvitaṃ;
Yathākammaṃ gamissanti,
puññapāpaphalūpagā;
Nirayaṃ pāpakammantā,
puññakammā ca suggatiṃ.

Tasmā kareyya kalyāṇaṃ,
nicayaṃ samparāyikaṃ;
Puññāni paralokasmiṃ,
patiṭṭhā honti pāṇinan 'ti.

(S 431-431/3.22/1:97)

If the Pali does not work, let me know.

Piya Tan


On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Stephen Hodge <
s.hodge@...> wrote:

> Dear Palistas,
>
> I wonder if any well-read person can solve this problem for me. Within
> certain sutra I a reading in Chinese, the interlocutor asks the Buddha
> about
> the true meaning of a verse he is said to have uttered to console the
> heart-broken King Pasenadi upon the death of his mother (but probably,
> grandmother). The verse roughly translates as follows:
>
> "If even Buddhas, Pratyekabuddhas and shravakas cast off their impermanent
> bodies, then how much more so in the case of ordinary people (puthajjanas)
> !"
>
> Does anybody recognize an approximate Pali equivalent for this verse ?
> Bear
>
> in mind that it may not, in fact, actually occur in connection with
> Pasenadi
> in the Pali canon. Unfortunately, there is nothing here that one could
> readily use as a keyword to do a quick canonical search.
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen Hodge
>
>
>



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