--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "thomaslaw03" <thomaslaw03@...> wrote:

>
> I am concerned that if the wisdom-liberated Arahat does not attain

even

> the first form-level Jhana (DN II 70-1), then he aasavaa are

destroyed

> not by samadha but by ''seeing'' with wisdom. This is very

different

> from any meditative traditions in history.
>
> Thomas Law
>

Dear Thomas
Because the way of insight is unique to Dhamma.

In the Susima sutta the Buddha explained about sukkavipassaka
arhants - those who are liberated without having jhana.
Venerable Bodhi translates the commentary to this sutta:

i]Saratthappakasini (Atthakatha) :
Why is this said? For the purpose
of showing the arising of
knowledge thus even without concentration.
This is meant: "Susima, the path and fruit are not the issue of
concentration (samadhinissanda), nor the advantage brought about by
concentration (samadhi-anisamsa), nor the outcome of concentration
(samadhinipphatti). They are the issue of insight (vipassana), the
advantage brought about by insight, the outcome of insight.
Therefore, whether you understand or not, first comes knowledge of
the stability of the Dhamma, afterwards knowledge of Nibbana.
Spk-pt (tika): 'Even without concentration' (vina pi samadhim): even
without
previously established (concentration) that has acquired the
characteristic of serenity (samatha-lakkhanappattam); this is said
referring to one who takes the vehicle of insight
(vipassanayanika)..."[/i]

Robert