Dear Nina,
Thanks again but seems more Qs induced.

1. If only arahats are bhuuta, then what's the explanation for "evampi
sabbabhuutesu" in the same sutta?

2. Not sure if i understand you correctly. Do you mean the first moment of
a life is when a baby was born to the world? Then the 10month in womb is
without consciousness? This will be easily refuted by the evidences found
today.

virtually with real metta,
Traveller
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Dear Traveller,
The arahats are called bhuuta, not the sekhas and ordinary men. It is
said:<That are bhuuta): that have been born, generated; they are
reckoned thus 'They are (have been), they will not be again, which is
a designation for those with tainsts exhausted, [namely, Arahants]. >
As to the unborn human babies also are called those that yet seek to
be, yes, in this context. They are still in the womb.
Actually, when we consider the rebirth-consciousness, this is the
first moment of a life.
Nina.
Op 22-aug-2006, om 12:26 heeft traveller het volgende geschreven:

> Regarding to Q1, the explanation in the Commentary brings some more
> questions.
> Aren't those bhuuta? The Initiates and ordinary men, etc.
> Or the unborn human babies also are called those that yet seek to be?