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Fra: Pali@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pali@yahoogroups.com] På vegne af Ong Yong
Peng
Sendt: 5. december 2005 12:13
Til: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Emne: Re: SV: [Pali] AN1.15.1-28 A.t.thaana (1/5)


Dear Ole and friends,

thanks for confirming my guess that upagacchati is not governed by
the Ablative.

hence,

di.t.thisampanno puggalo ka~nci sa`nkhaara.m niccato upagaccheyya
a person endowed with right views should regard any sankhara from
being permanent
[or]

only the alternative below is correct
OP
a person endowed with right views should regard any sankhara as
impermanent

Putting the sentence back:

"This is not the standpoint, monks: there is not a chance that,
endowed with right views, a person should consider any sankhara from
(correct "from" to as!) OP
being (delete "being") permanent.

Am I right? Thanks again.


metta,
Yong Peng.

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Ole Holten Pind wrote:

> Upagacchati is tricky. While I don't think it is, I hope someone
> can confirm whether upagacchati is governed by the Ablative?

Upagacchati is constructed with nouns ending in the ablative affix to
< Sanskrit tas. This particular construction means to regard
(upagacchati) X as Y (+ -to). In the present case the clause means to
regard the sankhaaras as anicca. This type of construction is
occasionally met with in the Pali canon. Notice also that ya.m (that)
entails the optative or potential form upagaccheyya correspondng to
Sanskrit yat (that) constructed with optative.





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