--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "societe_bouddhiste_gotama"
<societe_bouddhiste_gotama@...> wrote:

>
> Dear brothers and sisters in the Dhamma,
>
> Not so long ago I've read some sutta in which the Buddha's states

that

> any layman fully convinced in the merits of the Buddha-Dhamma-

Sangha

> is sure to be reborn among the devas, even if he does not attain
> stream entry in this life. This seems to give some canonical

evidence

> for the well known Pure Land (Sukkhavati) claims as to the "faith-
> driven salvation". Unfortunately, I cannot retrieve the before
> mentionned sutta !
>
> If someone has the sutta name, or some other helpful information,

may

> he speak as to dispell my ignorance.
>
> ___________

Dear S.B.G.
Majjhima Nikaya Sutta 22:
Last paragraph:
Bhikkhus the Dhamma well proclaimed by me is clear open,
evident, and free of patchwork. In the Dhamma proclaimed by me
thus .. those bhikkhus who have sufficient faith in me,
sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven"

The Atthakatha says that this refers to persons who are devoted
to insight but who haven't yet reached any stage of
enlightenment.
I do not think it gives support for strange ideas about pure land
however.
Robertk

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