--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "junet9876" <junet9876@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had several windows opened at once and it took me some time to find
> the link below again...having read it, I just wanted to say that
> although it's true that many proponents of the "vipassana method" are
> quite agressive...that's actually what turned me off in the beginning,
> making me think that perhaps they can't attain the jhanas, so they are
> saying it is not needed...but whatever the case may be for those
> people, there are kind and quiet people out there, who have attained
> the jhanas, but still support the "vipassana" method. Unfortunately
> they are the ones you don't hear from.
>
> _______

Dear June,
How do you know that there are these people who have attained jhana?
Robertk