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Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Dmytro O. Ivakhnenko (Ð"миÑÑо Ðл
еjhanas.
>
Robert:The Commentaries explain far from the Buddha's parinibbana the
> > arahants have less sublime qualities, no more analytical
knowledges.
> > In the first 1000 years they may have the 4 patisambhidhimaggas,
the
> > next 1000 years there were only arahats who are sukkha vipassaka,
> > In the third period of thousand years there are only people who
> > have attained the state of non-returner, anagami, no arahants.
>
> Still you gave no reference.
>
> Probably you meant the following commentary:
>
> Pa.tikacceva pa~n~nattattaa pana aparaanipi pa~nca vassasataani
> .thassatiiti eva.m pa.thama.m vuttavassasahassameva .thassati.
> Vassasahassanti ceta.m pa.tisambhidaapabhedappattakhii.naasavaana.m
> vaseneva vutta.m, tato pana uttaripi
> sukkhavipassakakhii.naasavavasena vassasahassa.m, anaagaamivasena
> vassasahassa.m, sakadaagaamivasena vassasahassa.m,
sotaapannavasena
> vassasahassanti eva.m pa~ncavassasahassaani pa.tivedhasaddhammo
> .thassati. Pariyattidhammopi taaniyeva. Na hi pariyattiyaa
asati
> pa.tivedho atthi, naapi pariyattiyaa sati pa.tivedho na hoti.
> Li"nga.m pana pariyattiyaa antarahitaayapi cira.m pavattissatiiti.
>
> Atthakanipatadi-Atthakatha 4.137, Culavagga-Atthakatha 6.1291
>
Dear Dmytro,
That is indeed the one, thanks for finding it!
I now give some more references:
The Netti-pakarana (587)
"Tattha Bhagava tikkhindriyassa samatham upadassati, majjhindriyassa
Bhagava samathavipassanam upadissati, mudindriyassa Bhagava
vipassanam upadassati.
Herein the Blessed one teaches samatha to one of keen faculties;
The blessed one teaches samatha and insight to one of medium
faculties and the blessed one teaches insight [alone] to one of
blunt
faculties.
Again in the Netti (746)it says that the Buddha teaches insight
[alone] to one who is guidable (neyya) and teaches in detail to
neyya. At this time (acording to the texts) there are only
padaparama and neyya. Padaparama cannot attain in this life,
although they can in future lives..
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/individu.htm
At the present day, only the following Neyya and Padaparama classes
of individuals remain.
""(3) A Neyya : an individual who needs
to study the sermon and the exposition, and then
to practise the provisions contained therein for 7 days to 60 years,
to attain the Paths and the Fruits during this lifetime if he tries
hard with guidance from the right teacher.
(4) A Padaparama : is an individual who
cannot attain the Paths and the Fruits within this lifetime."""
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If you can find the actual commentary that Ledi sayadwa took this
from it I would appreciate it.
Notice from the netti that vipassaa (alone) is for those who are
mudindriyassa (blunt or dull facultied) . Only the very wisest are
able to master jhana and vipassana.
Robertk