Re: SV: [Pali] Re: Jhana

From: libris
Message: 8669
Date: 2005-08-21

Sadhu Gunnar,

For reiterating that the Dharma is so easy to practise, esp through a proper understanding of sotapanna.

Scholars often try to make Buddhism complicated for professional reasons (read economic facility), which is not bad in itself. After it is a peaceful (pre)occupation and has contributed much to the word understanding of Buddhism.

However, as you have stated again (echoing the spirit of the Cakkhu Sutta and the Saupadisesa Sutta) work towards Sotapanna.

Sukhi

Piya


--- Gunnar Gällmo <gunnargallmo@...> wrote:

> --- "Dmytro O. Ivakhnenko (äÍÉÔÒÏ ïÌÅËÓ¦ÊÏ×ÉÞ
> ¶×ÁÈÎÅÎËÏ)" <nibbanka@...> skrev:
>
> > "There is no argument that stream-entry is attainble
> > without jhana.
> > However further progress requires completion of
> > concentration
> > development"
>
> Well, if
>
> 1. sotapatti is the point of no return, and every
> sotapanna will by necessity become an arahant, and if
>
> 2. the jhanas are necessary for arahatta, but not for
> sotapatti,
>
> then it follows that a sotapanna, if he has not yet
> developed the jhanas necessary for arahatta, will do
> so regardless of our discussion.
>
> And if sotapatti is the point of no return, and
> arahatta an unavoidable consequence of sotapatti, than
> it's sotapatti that is the really important point.
>
> Gunnar
>
>
> gunnargallmo@...
>
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