Dear Tzung-Kuen,
I cannot go much into this difficult subject, but perhaps the Uddesa of my
Thai co. may help to understand samaya and asamaya:
1. samaya vimutto: timely freed; the teachers of the Commentary say that
they are; ordinary people with eight jhana attainments, four rupa-jhanas,
four arupajhanas, who are temporarily freed of defilements [N: these are
suppressed]. And the ariyans of the first three stages who have eradicated
some of the asavas because they see conditioned realities with vipassana
pañña and see the noble Truths with magga-pañña.
2. asamaya vimutto: arahatta who is sukkha vipassaka, who has eradicated all
asavas, because he sees dhamma by pa~n~naa. Alternatively: all ariyans are
asamaya vimutto, because they obtained ariyan vimokkha successively: there
isn't any time that such freedom can decline again.
Maybe this helps when reading the texts.
Nina.
op 24-06-2004 02:55 schreef Mr Tzung-Kuen Wen op
s4060239@...:
> Dear friends
>
> A passage about asamayavimutto¹ (one emancipated not (only) at times) from
> Pugglapa~n~natti (PTS, p. 11) reads,
>
> 2. Katamo ca puggalo asamayavimutto? Idhekacco puggalo na heva kho kaalena
> kaalam samayena samayam at.t.ha vimokkhe kaayena phusitvaa viharati,
> pa~n~naaya cassa disvaa aasavaa parikkhiin.naa honti- ayam vuccati puggalo
> ³asamayavimutto². Sabbepi ariyapuggalaa ariye vimokkhe asamayavimuttaa.
>
> Bimala Charan Law, in his Designation of Human Types (p. 2), translates it as
>
> What sort of person is one emancipated not (only) at times?
> Here a person goes on experiencing the eight stages of emancipation though not
> from time to time...(snipped)