Dear Rene,

I must add that I am very grateful to you for your information. When I
looked at the A 6.63 (the Sutta after the one you mentioned below), I
discovered it is the Nibbedhika Pariyaaya Sutta, one of the greatest gems of
the Anguttara. I have slotted this into my Sutta Discovery syllabus and is
in the process of re-translating it.

I still hope some generous scholar out there will help me locate the
reference where it is said that Buddha/s and devas know/see what we are
doing. I prefer not to make a Sutta quote when I am uncertain of its exact
reference.

Sukhi.

Piya

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene Salm" <rsalm@...>
To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 07 June, 2003 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Pali] Buddha knows


> Dear Piya,
>
> Here are two passages:
>
> SN 2.16.9 (Kassapasamyutta-- Jhanas and direct knowledges, BB I/p.673)
>
> - Bhikkhus, to whatever extent I wish, I understand the minds of other
beings and persons, having encompassed them with my own mind. I understand a
mind with lust as a mind with lust; a mind without lust as a mind without
lust; a mind with hatred... without hatred... with delusion... without
delusion... a contracted mind as contracted and a distracted mind as
distracted; an exalted mind... unexalted... surpassable mind...
unsurpassable... a concentrated mind... unconcentrated... a liberated
mind... and an unliberated mind as unliberated..
>
> AN 6.6.62 (Book of the sixes, Great Chapter, The solemn utterance, PTS
Engl. vol 3/p.288)
>
> - Even so, Ananda, by mind compassing mind, I know of some person: "There
is good and evil in him"-- and then: "The good has disappeared, the evil is
uppermost; but the root of goodness is not cut off and from that good will
proceed. Thus he is bound not to fall in future." Verily, Ananda, thus, by
mind compassing mind, the person of man is known to the Tathaagata; thus by
mind compassing mind, the feelings and thoughts of man are known to the
Tathaagata; thus, by mind compassing mind, the future rise of things
[Dhammasamuppaado] is known to the Tathaagata."
>
> I hope this is what you were looking for,
>
> Rene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Piya Tan
> To: Pali Website
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:29 AM
> Subject: [Pali] Buddha knows
>
>
> Dear Pali friends,
>
> I have just completed a paper on "Money and Monastics" (a study of the
2nd
> Council, the Maniculaka Sutta, etc). I forget a reference, wonder if
anyone
> can help.
>
> Does anyone remember the reference in the Suttas where the Buddha
declares
> that the Buddha/s and the devas know/see everything that we do (or
> something to that effect).
>
> Sukhi.
>
> Piya
>
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