Dear Rene,

Those are two really great references, which are very useful.

However there is still another reference where devas are also mentioned. I'm
sure it's on the four Nikayas but I have been unable to locate the Pali
text.

Thanks again.

Sukhi.

P.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene Salm" <rsalm@...>
To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 07 June, 2003 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Pali] Buddha knows


> Dear Piya,
>
> Here are two passages:
>
> SN 2.16.9 (Kassapasamyutta-- Jhanas and direct knowledges, BB I/p.673)
>
> - Bhikkhus, to whatever extent I wish, I understand the minds of other
beings and persons, having encompassed them with my own mind. I understand a
mind with lust as a mind with lust; a mind without lust as a mind without
lust; a mind with hatred... without hatred... with delusion... without
delusion... a contracted mind as contracted and a distracted mind as
distracted; an exalted mind... unexalted... surpassable mind...
unsurpassable... a concentrated mind... unconcentrated... a liberated
mind... and an unliberated mind as unliberated..
>
> AN 6.6.62 (Book of the sixes, Great Chapter, The solemn utterance, PTS
Engl. vol 3/p.288)
>
> - Even so, Ananda, by mind compassing mind, I know of some person: "There
is good and evil in him"-- and then: "The good has disappeared, the evil is
uppermost; but the root of goodness is not cut off and from that good will
proceed. Thus he is bound not to fall in future." Verily, Ananda, thus, by
mind compassing mind, the person of man is known to the Tathaagata; thus by
mind compassing mind, the feelings and thoughts of man are known to the
Tathaagata; thus, by mind compassing mind, the future rise of things
[Dhammasamuppaado] is known to the Tathaagata."
>
> I hope this is what you were looking for,
>
> Rene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Piya Tan
> To: Pali Website
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:29 AM
> Subject: [Pali] Buddha knows
>
>
> Dear Pali friends,
>
> I have just completed a paper on "Money and Monastics" (a study of the
2nd
> Council, the Maniculaka Sutta, etc). I forget a reference, wonder if
anyone
> can help.
>
> Does anyone remember the reference in the Suttas where the Buddha
declares
> that the Buddha/s and the devas know/see everything that we do (or
> something to that effect).
>
> Sukhi.
>
> Piya
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