op 17-05-2003 00:35 schreef Flavio Costa op listas@...:

N: "See Visuddhimagga, Ch VII, 76: sanditthiko: visible here and now. and

> akaliko: without delay, because the lokuttara magga-citta is succeeded
> immediately by its result, the phala-citta. In other cases the vipaakacitta
> does not follow immediately upon the kamma which produces it."
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F: When you say that phala-citta is immediately followed by lokuttara

> magga-citta, it means that when one attains arahantship (or any other
> intermediate ariyan stage), the fruits of such attainment arise just after
> it?

N: The lokuttara magga-citta is lokuttara kusala kamma and it is succeeded
by phala-citta, the lokuttara vipakacitta.
When you perform daana, this is kusala kamma of the sense sphere and its
result, vipaaka, arises later on, as rebirth-consciousness, or in the course
of life as seeing, hearing, etc. which experience a desirable object, and
these experiences are kusala vipaaka. Kamma is accumulated and can produce
result much later, even aeons afterwards. We never know what kamma has in
store for us.
It is different with lokuttara kusala kamma, the lokuttara maggacitta
(path-consciousness), this cannot produce rebirth-consciousness, it leads to
the end of birth. It produces its result in the same process of citta during
which enlightenment is attained. Lokuttara maggacitta experiences nibbaana
and eradicates latent tendencies of defilements according to the stage of
enlightenment which is attained, and it produces its result, fruition
consciousness, phalacitta, immediately afterwards. When phalacitta arises
defilements have been eradicated, in accordance with that stage of
enlightenment, and it experiences nibbaana.
I hope this clarifies,
Nina.