--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "rjkjp1" <rjkjp1@...> wrote:

>
> > In the Paticcasamuppada vinnana is given one nidana and nama only
> > applies to the other mental factors.
> > However at other times nama includes vinnana; . See for example
> > Visuddh. XIV 11: "in the third dyad when a man wants to begin
> > insight, his understanding of the defining of the FOUR immaterial
> > aggregates [i.e. vinnana, sankhara, vedana and sanna] is
> > understanding as defining of mentality (nama).....So it is of 2
> kinds
> > as the defining of mentality(nama) and materiality (rupa).
> _____

Sorry, here is the standard transliteration:Tatiyaduke yaa
vipassana.m aarabhitukaamassa catunna.m aruupakkhandhaana.m
vavatthaapane pa~n~naa, aya.m naamavavatthaapanapa~n~naa. Yaa
ruupakkhandhassa vavatthaapane pa~n~naa, aya.m
ruupavavatthaapanapa~n~naati eva.m naamaruupavavatthaapanavasena
duvidhaa.