op 09-03-2003 05:52 schreef Ong Yong Peng op ypong001@...:
Dear Yong Peng,
In the S. IV, many times pe, also la: S IVCh III, 26: parijaanaana. La is
the same as pe ? These must have been used later on, not originally. I
prefer the full text as a reminder for me of the objects impinging on the
six doors.

> (1) DN2 Samannaphala Sutta para.194 (PTS 1.63)
> "Biijagaama-bhuutagaama-samaarambhaa pa.tivirato hoti
> damaging plants and seeds / not abstaining from / is

N: He abstains from damaging plants and seeds and so on (but the PTS omits
and so on)
Y: pe ekabhattiko hoti
having one meal a day /
N: He has one meal a day. I think the pe belongs to the foregoing.
Y: rattuuparato *virato vikaala-bhojanaa.

> abstaining from food at night / abstains from / food at improper time
> *I wonder if there is a typo error in the CSCD, the word I get from
> metta-net is pa.tivirato.

N: viramati is to abstain, and so is pa.tiviramati. My Pali-Thai dict gives
for pa.ti: specifically, abstains specifically. Pa.ti has many meanings and
this is one of them. You have: pa.ti - prefix against, opposite. Yes, these
are also meanings.
vikaala: vi is negative. kaalo: time.

> biijagaamabhuutagaamasamaarambhaa - can someone please help to
> explain this in connection with siila;

N: Vinaya, (Horner IV) Mahaavagga, Part III, monks were trampling down crops
and grasses, injuring life etc. The Buddha gave a rule for the rains retreat
(vassaana). The farmers were distressed and irritated if the monks trampled
down the crops etc. No traveling during that season (at least three months
out of the four).
These are Minor rules. Please, I am waiting for others' opinion, maybe more
details.
Y: virata - abstaining from, avoiding (viramati p.p.);
pa.tivirata - not abstaining from;
N:pa.tivirata is abstaining from.

> (2) DN4 Sonadanda Sutta para.303 (PTS 1.113)
> "Bhava~nhi so.nada.n.do a.d.dho mahaddhano mahaabhogo pe
>
> bhava~nhi - ???

N: My PTS: bhava is birth and this pertains to the foregoing: .. no reproach
in respect to birth.
Y: so.na - dog;

> ada.n.da - without a stick, ie. without force or violence [PED
> da.n.da]
> so.nada.n.do - ???

N: I take it this is just his name. Dog's Stick? I think just danda.
PTS has: He was prosperous, well to do and rich.

> a.d.dha - adj. rich, wealthy;
> bhoga - possession, wealth;
> mahaddhana, mahabhoga - of great wealth, of great resources [PED
> a.d.dha2]
>
> (3) DN22 Mahasatipatthana Sutta para.377 (PTS 2.293)

Y: Iti ajjhatta.m vaa pe evam pi kho, bhikkhave,

> thus / internally / or / [insert] / in this way / monks
>
> bhikkhu kaaye kaaya-anupassii viharati.
> monk / on body / one who contemplates the body / stays
>
> Thus, monks, in this way, a monk who contemplates the body stays
> (focused) on the body internally [insert] ...
> > viharati - to live, stay.
> ???iti - is iti an open quotation mark or does it mean thus

N: ti is usually at the end as quotation mark. Iti: thus, for stress.
Y: kaayaanupassii = kaaya (body) + anupassii (one who contemplates);
N: In these few words there is a lot of meaning. I would like to add a few
things.
The PTS has: So does he, as to the body, continue to consider the body...
viharati: Vibhanga (second book of the Abhidhamma), Ch 12, para 540: dwells:
assumes the four postures, exists, protects, keeps going, maintains, turns
about, dwells...
It is also translated (as PTS suggests) as : continue to do.
anupassii: passati to see, and also: to understand. Anu: can mean: often,
again and again. anupassii: consider, contemplate often, but in this sutta:
with sati sampaja~n~na: with awareness and understanding, this is in
connection with vipassanaa pa~n~naa. Sampajano satima. With understanding
and mindfulness.
Having this in mind I would, instead of: stays focussed prefer: he continues
to contemplate the body... Or lives, dwells contemplating the body. As I see
it, <stays focussed> seems rather to stress only concentration instead of
understanding.

>
> (4) DN22 Mahasatipatthana Sutta para.379 (PTS 2.295)
> "Iti ajjhatta.m vaa pe viharati.
> thus / internally / or / [insert] / stays
> "Thus, he stays [insert] internally or...

N: PTS has: So does he, as to the body, continue to consider the body...
Again, they do not add <and so on> for pe.
Nina.