--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, nina van gorkom <nilo@...> wrote:
> >
> >> A brahman who has abandoned defilements,
> >
> > "abandoned defilements" for the more literal "rejected sinful
things"?
> N: papa: evil, yes, what you say is O.K.

About papa as "evil" see the the very interesting article by L.S.
Cousins: http://jbe.gold.ac.uk/3/cousins1.html (The part about papa
and pu~n~na is a bit further down)

Greetings
Lars