The name Abkhazians have for themselves is Apswa. The Kaska/Kashka name
may be preserved
in the Kashkai. The Abaza are Apswa who moved north of the Caucasus and who
now live in
the Karachaevo-Cherkess Respublica.
John wrote:
Hi Folks
Regarding the chart below, I have been wondering about the Abkhazi in
the chart below. I wonder if this should be Ab-khazi, in which case
could the Khazi be what was left of the Kaska who proved such a
nuisance to the Hittites? If so this would make the Kholkhoi more
likely the Abaza people.
The proto-Hurro-Urartuan may have been another sub-family of the
Nakho-Daghestan (NE Caucasian) group most closely related to Nakh.
Regards
John
> I believe the Proto-Tgrean/Proto Euphrateans were Hurro-
> Urartuan speakers. In the Sumerian language it appears the Proto-
> Euphrateans finished up as the servant/servitor/slave to the
> Sumerian upper class. The Sumerians gave these people the name
> Subartu, and replenished their numbers by raids northwards or
> trading for slaves from Ashur, who would raid the Subartu people
> nearby (who would have spoken a language cognate with the Proto-
> Euphrateans of the south). I believe, that before it was
> Semetised, the Subartuan language was an early form of Hurro-
> Urartuan.
>
> Thus the Genetic Tree (not to vertical scale) of the Hurro-Urartuan
> languages would be
>
> years............................................|.................
> before...(Upper Paleolithic)............Sino-Dene-Caucasian........
> present.......................----------------------------->>>>>>>>
> 40k..................Proto NW Caucasian............................
> .......-------------------------------------------.................
> .......|....................................Proto-North............
> ..Proto South................................Caucasian.............
> 30.Caucasian?....................---------------------.............
> .......|.....................Abkhazo-..............Nakho-..........
> .......|.....................Adyghian...........Dagestanian........
> .......|.....................(North-........-----------------......
> 20k....|.......................West.........|........Dagestanian...
> ..Proto Hurro-...............Caucasian......|.....----------------.
> ....Urartuan.........-----------------......|.....|.......|......|.
> .......|.............|......|........|......|.....|.......|......|.
> 10k....|.....Proto-Hattic...|........|......|.....|..Avaro-Andi..|.
> .......|.(Neolithic)....Abkhazian....|....Nakh....|.....Dido.....|.
> ...--------------........(Kaskan)....|......|.....|.....-------..|.
> .Proto..........|...........|....Adyghian...|...----....|.....|..|.
> .Tigrean..-----------.......|........|......|...|..|..-----...|..|.
> ...|...Subartuan....|.......|......-----....|...|..|..|...|...|..|.
> ...|......|.........|.....-----...C|...|....|...|..|..|...|...|..|.
> ...|......|...--------....|C..|...i|...|..----..|..|..|...|...|..|.
> ...|......|...|...Proto...|o..|...r|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|.
> 5k.|......|.Hurri..Urartu.|l..|...c|...|..|..|..|..|.Avar.|.Dido.|.
> absorbed..|.-ian....-an...|c..|...a|...|..|..|..|..|..|..Andi.|..|L
> ..into....|...|......|....|h..|...s|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|e
> Sumerian..|...|......|....|i..|...i|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|z
> 4k...absorbed.|..Urartuan.|a..|...a|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|g
> .......into...|......|....|n..|...n|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|h
> ......Asshur..|......|....|...|.Kabard.|Chechen.|..|..|...|...|..|i
> ...........absorbed..|....|.Abaza..|...|..|&.|..|.Lak.|...|...|..|a
> 3k...........into....|.Abkhaz.|....|...|.Ingush.|..|..|...|...|..|n
> ...........Aramaic...|....|...|....|Adyghi|..|Dargi|..|...|...|..|.
> .................Armenian.|...|....|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|.
> 2k..............& Kurdic..|...|....|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|.
> ................remnants..|...|....|...|..|..|..|..|..|...|...|..|.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Regards
>
> John
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