From: H.M. Hubey
Message: 690
Date: 2003-06-19
c. Kelime sonu: æ, g, m, V r/z.
(Word final: æ, g, m, V r/z)
I. Sumerian ae- vs Turkic An-
1. mæ I (Grd. 386)
men ben (KBI., 309, DLT, I, 20)
2. zæ you (sg.) (Grd. 431)
sen sen (DLT, I, 36)
Looks like Sumerian has lost the final-n.
Morning Star e.g. Venus
3. s,ulpæ Gott Sulpae (Falkenstein, 29) krs,. dilbat the Venus- star
(Prince)
çolpan çoban y?d?z? (TZ. 163); Zuhre y?ld?z?, çoban y?ld?z? (Idr.
31); sabah y?ld?z? (Ab. 247); Etoile blanche qui se montre vers
Iaurore et sur laquelle se guident lecaravans (PdC, 297)
4. ulia Grass, Futter, Pflanze (D. 99)
öle? sulak yer, batakl?k arazi (EUSz. 150); ot, çay?r Mk. E. 275,
335); çimenlik (Ab. 108); vert, emdroit riche En verdure, prairie
(PdC. 78); öle?lik çay?r, otlak (TTSz. 550)
II. Sumerian g- vs Turkic ?-
1. as,a(g) field (Grd. 326)
ala? alan, düz ve aç?k yer (DLT, I, 135)
A classic. l=sh, and ng>n and ng>g as I have written N times where N is a big
number. This word is also related to dozens of words relating to land, e.g. alan,
alang, arena, harena, aran, ozen, accross various language families. Specifically, we
have
aran (valley, KBal) vs Ozen (valley, Kbal),
*ar vs Oz (valley, Clauson)
According to simple and standard rules of historical linguistics, *ar is prototurkic
and stands for valley/land. No way of getting around it.
2. bulug Grenze, Grenzegebiet (D. 31)
bulu? kös,e, bucak, zaviye (DLT, II, 371); kös,e, yön, taraf, cihet
(EUSz. 53)
3. dag daybreak, morning, dawn (D. 43), hell, rein, glänzend (D. 69)
ta? tan, sabah vakti (DLT, I, 170; KBI., 421)
again ng>g and ng> n.
Left-throwers claim "kalabalik" is Arabic but cannot find the etymology whereas the root is plain
4. kalag to be strong, to be vigorous, to have power (Grd. 349),
machtig, stark (D. 141)
kal?? kalabal?k, çok sürü; kal?n, kesif (DLT, I, 149; KBI., 218), çok
sürü; kal?n, kesif (DLT, I, 149; KBI., 218), çok, say?s?z, s?k, pek
kalabal?k, koyu (EUSz. 162)
in Turkic e.g. kala (to pile up high), kalk (to arise), kalka (to soar, rise) , kaldir (to lift, eg. cause to
go high).
5. nig whatsoever (MSL, III, 69), thing (Grd. 397), nigname
whatever (MSL, IV, 30), nignam all sorts of things, everything (Grd.
345)
ne? nesne, s,ey, mal (DLT, I, II; KBI., 328), es,ya, nesne (EUSz. 136)
6. sig Wool, body-hair (Grd. 405), wolle (D. 181)
yü? yün, yün sümeg(i; pamuk (DLT, III, 89), yün; (KBI., 562)
7. zalag glänzen; hell (D. 117)
yal?? alev; yalç?n, sarp, ç?plak (YTSz. 232), ç?plak (EUSz. 282,
KBI., 518; DLI, III, 373), yal?? alev (EUSz.282; KBI., 517; DLT, III,
23); ç?plak
Left-throwers claim that the word Alan (ethnic name of Ossetians) is derived from "deer" but
III. Sumerian m- vs Turkic K-
1. alim Steppentier, Widder D. 13)
elik geyik elik kiyik (ETY, Ir. 97, II, 90), geyik (At. Hk. 456,
XVIII), ceylan (Idr. 10), dag( keçisi, yabankeçisi (KBI., 146)
cannot find the word in other IE languages. Of course, the word "Alan" did not even exist in Ossetian and
even "Ossetian" is a name made up for them by Russian historians. They call themselves "iron" (eeron)
and there are two dialects, Ironic and Digoric, nothing in there about "As" (Ossete), or "Alan".
Strangely enough, but not for this branch of "historical linguistics" , the Ossetians use the word
"Assiag" to refer to their Turkic-speaking neighbors. Even this is not enough evidence for
Homo Sovieticus linguists that they have things ass-backwards. Most of the so-called "Iranian" words
that allegedly exist in Turkic (e.g. borrowed into Turkic) that Abaev made up, and which was picked up and
spread fervently come from Digoric not Ironic. Digoric is an agglutinative language, nothing like Ironic. The
obvious conclusion is that Digoric was a Turkic language that became Iranized, not the other way around.
Please see attached file.
Recall d-bolgaric dilom vs common Turkic yIlan e.g. n=m,
2. alim König (D. 13)
ilig hükümdar (KBI., 194); hükümdar, k?ral (EUSz. 92)
and *iling> ilig/ilin
3. dilim Schale, Napf (D. 84), dilib Schopf (MSL, III, 117)
yal?g at yelesi (DLT, II, 327; III, 13, 14)
4. garim Fluss-Aue (MSL, III, 109)
ar(?)k ?rmak, ark, germeç, kas,, kanal (DLT, I, 65)
5. izim hess (D. 133), Feuer, Hitze, heiss (MSL, III, 132; IV, 36)
isig s?cak (DLT, I, 72); s?cak, s?cakl?k, iltifat (KBI., 201)
again m=n=g
This is the rounded version of the word that showed up earlier e.g. eke, eket, egech. This is an
6. kurum6 food-ration, food supply (Grd. 379)
azuk az?k, yiyecek (KBI., 50; DLT, I, 7, 16)
7. nurum Licht (D. 170)
yaruk ?s,?k, ayd?nl?k; parlak (DLT, I, 46), ayd?nl?k, parlak (KBI., 527)
8. s,urum a cattle stable D. 201)
sürüg sürü (KBI., 412; EUSz. 2145)
9. um Mutter (D. 107)
ög anne (ETY, BK, D, 63; EUSz. 146)
extremely late development in Turkic.
IV. Sumerian çV r/z vs Turkic çr/çV
1. dingir Gott (D. 84), god (Grd. 341)
te?ri Tanr? (DLT, I, 53, 68), gök, sema (DLT, III, 377)
2. dubur 1. Hode (D. 78)
yumru top gibi yuvarlak (Mn. Gz. 78, v5), yumr? yumru (TZ, 34, 69;
Mk. E. 238), krs,. yumurtga yumurta&.. insanlar?n ve hayvanlar?n
tas,aklar? (DLT, II, 313)
3. nunuz 2. bead (Falkenstein, 29)
yinçü inci; cariye (DLT, I, 273), yinçü inci (KBI., 545), yünçü id.
(KBI., 562)
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