From: H.M. Hubey
Message: 685
Date: 2003-06-19
II. Sumerian d/, - vs Turkic n/, -
Here is something amazing already. Recall the initial *nd (e.g. from Maddieson, & Ladefoged
and also from Watkins). They both show up at once! Miracle!
And what if there was a cluster -nth-?
And what if there were more of these, like -rth-, and -lth-? or what if these two came from
the -nth-?
Here is another wonderful example. kid2 must be *kidh or *kinth > kidh> kid2. the fact that
1. dugud schwer (MSL, III, 141)
yogun kal?n, yog(un (KBI., 549), yog(un, s,is,kin, kal?n (DLT,
III., 29), kal?n, yog(un, kaba (EUSz. 301)
2. kid2 dkid2=ilS,AMAS,, Sonne (D. 149) krs,. ?ud, ud
kün gün, günes, gündüz (DLT, I, 69), günes, (KBI., 300)
it is not kid, but kid2 means that it is not really a d at the end. Look at the Turkic word and how
it ends in n. That may in fact be even more complex e.g. *kUyUn > kUn. The root is
kUy (to burn), the same word that shows up in words like cucina, kitchen, cook, etc. Using the
sound changes *th>l I think even "kiln" is related. Indeed Akkadian has kilin (heat). And Turkic
has words like kiz (to get hot). True Nostratic if anything. I think it even exists in Nilo-Saharan.
maybe Sumerian was mlud.
3. mud blood (Grd. 389)
kan kan (DLT, I, 192; KBI., 220)
4. sipad shepherd Grd. 406), siba Hirt (MSL, III, 143)
çopan köy büyüg(ünün (muhtar?n?n) yamag(?, gizir (DLY, I, 402),
çoban (Mk. E. 136; Hs. S,r. 2384; Nh. F. 318-16, 329-11; Çrh. 70; PdC.
290)
5. sud4 to be long, to lengthen, to prolong (Grd. 408)
sun- uzamak, el uzatmak, uzanmak (YTSz. 1945, sün- uzamak, usanmak
(YTSz. 196)
Tuna misses "soz" (to stretch) and if s>0 we get oz (e.g. uza, see above).
6. tugdu knot, tie (Salonen 22)
tügün düg(üm (DLT, I, 400, 437) krs,. düg(ümlemek, bag(lamak (DLT,
I, 472)
This is one of the famous Nostratic ti- words. I have a very long article on this.
-- Mark Hubey hubeyh@... http://www.csam.montclair.edu/~hubey