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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: [Nostratica] Re: Cardinal and Ordinal Integers



> Her's another idea. The kW- of the "wheel" word is untypical of
> the "turn, bend" words I've mentioned in another posting. Suppose the
> word was borrowed first in an IA language as *kekl- (> c^akr-), then
> borrowed into Western IE as *kWekWl- (cf the Irish "cadraig" loans:
> Irish p- corresponding to Latin c- since it was borrowed through
> Welsh, and "their p is our k").
>
> Torsten


Any other cases of spontaneous labialisation ("their /c^/ or /k/ is our /kW/")? You got the Irish example wrong: it was Lat. p- that was replaced with Irish c-. The analogy does not work. Old Irish had no native sources of /p-/, but there were inherited /k/-type phonemes in all the satem languages.

Piotr