Alexander,
Aren't you basing the "steppe hypothesis" on morphological & cultural
evidence? Your placement of the IE homeland at Middle Volga does
sound a bit "Russocentric" but nevertheless, how does your
information match the genetic maps (Cavalli-Sforza for example)?

Sincerely,
Gerry

--- In nostratic@..., "Alexander Stolbov" <alex@...> wrote:
> Gerry,
> I'd add that in the framework of the steppe hypothesis there is a
variant of
> placing the IE homeland at Middle Volga (where the Samara river
joins it).
> The Neolithic-Eneolithic cultures of this region (the Samara
culture and
> then the Khvalynsk culture) belong to the same type as the Sredny
Stog
> culture, but it has been demonstrated
> (http://users.hartwick.edu/iaes/horseback/table2.html) that the
Khvalynsk
> culture is some older than the Sredny Stog one (which is usually
dated
> 4400-3500 BC). Besides, the Pit Grave (= Yamnaya) culture - a
classical
> "Kurgan" culture - has been established in the Early Bronze Age on
the
> territory of the Khvalynsk culture and only later spread westward
to the
> Pontic steppes and ousted the Sredny Stog population.
>
> If we accept this variant we should consider the Neolithic Samara
culture as
> PreIE, the Eneolithic Khvalynsk culture as Early IE and the
Eneolithic
> Sredny Stog culture as its earliest offspring (Anatolian ?). The
Pit Grave
> culture would represent in this case the main bulk of the IE family.
>
> However it is too early to make final conclusions. Further
investigations
> are needed.
>
> Alexander
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
> To: <nostratic@...>
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [nostratic] Origins of I-E; was: Re: Problems with
Bomhard
>
>
> > Gerry:
> > >Where are linguists placing the homeland of Indo-European?
> >
> > It would seem that the great majority place it north of the Black
Sea,
> > either further west in the Ukraine area or in the western edge of
the
> > eurasiatic steppes. Then there is the Out-Of-Anatolia Hypothesis
that
> > doesn't have as much support.
> >
> > Bomhard, thankfully, keeps to more mainstream ideas and doesn't
place the
> > IE in Anatolia, nor does he have the language come out of
Anatolia in
> > PreIE times.
> >
> >
> > - love gLeN
> >
> >
> >
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