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From: Piotr Gasiorowski

To: nostratic@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 2:49 PM

Subject: Re: [nostratic] ouralique et IE

As a common Uralic word is not likely to have been borrowed from Germanic, you had better propose a more ancient source.

 

Reduplicated *kWekWlo- has been borrowed into Uralic languages more than once (also as *kekrä- with a (pre-)Indo-Iranian *-r- for *-l-), but the source form is always recognisable as the normal IE shape *kWe-kWlo- (rather than **kWel-kW(el)- or the like).

 

[PR]

Well, you have a point there. Actually, however, I believe the root of the word pre-dates Germanic. I cited the Germanic form only because, by chance, a reduplicated version of the word has not been preserved except in Germanic.The simplex I would attribute to *ghow(e:)-, probably also seen in Egyptian xw,'protect'.  

  

And, you have another good point with my proposed *kwel-kwel-. On this, I can only respond: let us see if there really is good evidence for the 'laryngeal' > [k] proposal.

 

 

Pat

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